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Tuesday, September 22, 2026
Animals not in eternal state
Yes. If we pull the whole thread together, I think the conclusion we've reached is best stated as a biblical progression from the natural creation to the final spiritual/glorified order.
1. Animals belong to the restored earthly kingdom
Isaiah is very explicit:
“The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.”
— Isaiah 11:6 KJV
And Isaiah 65:25 repeats the picture:
“The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock…”
So the animal kingdom definitely has a place in the Messianic/Millennial earthly order.
That's important because it gives us a distinction: animals are present in the restored natural kingdom, but that doesn't automatically carry them into the final glorified order.
2. Man has a redemptive progression that animals don't have
This is probably the strongest piece of the framework you've been building.
For mankind:
natural birth → new birth → sanctification → resurrection/glorification
Paul says:
“It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body.”
— 1 Corinthians 15:44
And:
“Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.”
— 1 Corinthians 15:50
Then:
“This corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.”
— 1 Corinthians 15:53
Animals don't receive that sequence in Scripture. There is no animal new birth, sanctification, resurrection body, or glorification.
That distinction becomes significant when we reach the New Heaven and New Earth.
3. Creation itself is waiting for man's glorification
Romans 8 ties the whole creation to the manifestation of the sons of God:
“For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.”
— Romans 8:19
And:
“Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.”
— Romans 8:21
So there is a tremendous transition:
creation under corruption → creation delivered from corruption
That's bigger than merely humanity getting saved. The whole created order is affected.
4. Then comes the final transition: the New Heaven and New Earth
Peter gives us the fire/judgment transition:
“The heavens and the earth, which are now… are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment…”
— 2 Peter 3:7
Then:
“Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
— 2 Peter 3:13
And Revelation puts the sequence right after the final judgment:
“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away…”
— Revelation 21:1
So your distinction between the Millennial earthly kingdom and the eternal New Earth is crucial.
5. The characteristics of that final order are radically different
Revelation 21 says:
“God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain.”
Then Revelation 22:
“And there shall be no more curse.”
— Revelation 22:3
And Revelation 21:27:
“And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth…”
So we're no longer looking at a merely repaired version of the present natural order.
We're looking at the final, incorruptible order.
6. And this makes Revelation 22:2 particularly interesting
The verse you brought up was:
“In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life… and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.”
— Revelation 22:2
The interesting word is “nations.”
Greek ethnōn — peoples/nations.
The verse doesn't say the leaves are for healing animals. The entire scene is centered around God, the Lamb, the redeemed, the nations, and the tree of life.
And notice the apparent paradox:
Why “healing” if there is no sickness?
Because Revelation 21:4 has already established:
“neither shall there be any more pain.”
So healing here doesn't have to mean treating disease. It can describe the life-sustaining/beneficial provision of the tree for the nations.
That's actually a fascinating confirmation of the larger picture: the final order isn't merely about surviving. It is about life proceeding from God.
7. “No more sea” fits the enormous transition
Revelation 21:1 says:
“and there was no more sea.”
Literally, that's what John saw.
Within the typological framework you've been developing, you've connected the sea with the fluctuating, unstable natural order—the “wave” concept.
That isn't something Revelation itself defines as sine wave = sin, so I'd keep that distinction clear. But as a type, it fits beautifully with everything else you're observing:
fluctuation → stability
corruption → incorruption
mortality → immortality
natural body → spiritual body
curse → no curse
death → no death
The biblical text itself absolutely gives us the transformation; the sine-wave connection is the additional typological layer you're seeing in it.
8. The “dogs” passage fits the natural/brute contrast
Revelation 22:15 says:
“For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters…”
“Dogs” is clearly being used morally/figuratively there. Compare Philippians 3:2 and 2 Peter 2:22.
But within your larger typological argument, there's something interesting happening: “dog” represents the brute/natural condition rather than the redeemed spiritual condition.
So I wouldn't use Revelation 22:15 by itself to prove “literal dogs aren't on the New Earth.”
I'd use it as another piece of the natural-versus-spiritual imagery that runs throughout Scripture.
9. The really important distinction: animals aren't being “saved”
This is where I think your argument has become much clearer.
The Bible doesn't present animals as fallen sinners awaiting redemption in the same way human beings are.
Instead:
Man falls → man needs redemption → man is born again → man is sanctified → man is glorified.
Creation is subjected to corruption because of the Fall and is subsequently delivered from that bondage.
Animals participate in the natural creation, including the restored animal kingdom during Christ's earthly reign, but Scripture doesn't give them the human redemptive pathway.
That's a fundamentally different category.
So, putting the whole picture together
I'd summarize the biblical framework we've uncovered like this:
Present creation
↓
Fall / bondage of corruption
↓
Redemption of man
↓
Christ's earthly kingdom / Millennium
→ restored natural creation
→ animals explicitly present
↓
Final rebellion and Great White Throne
↓
Fire / judgment
↓
New Heaven + New Earth
→ no death
→ no sorrow
→ no pain
→ no curse
→ nothing defiling
→ righteousness dwells
→ tree of life
→ nations
→ glorified humanity
And sitting right in the middle of that is Paul's distinction:
“There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.”
— 1 Corinthians 15:44
That's really the hinge of your entire argument.
And one more verse I'd add
Romans 8:23 is almost tailor-made for the framework:
“And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.”
Notice the parallel:
Creation is waiting for the manifestation of the sons of God.
The sons of God are waiting for the redemption of their bodies.
Then 1 Corinthians 15 explains what that redemption of the body actually means:
“It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption.”
So the big biblical movement is not simply “earth gets nicer.”
It is:
CORRUPTION → INCORRUPTION
NATURAL → SPIRITUAL
MORTAL → IMMORTAL
CURSE → NO CURSE
DEATH → NO DEATH
And that gives a very coherent framework for why you distinguish the animals of Isaiah's Millennial kingdom from the final glorified order of Revelation 21–22.
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